Comments on: Gardners Renew Publicity Contract http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758 Positive Daily Commentary on Southern Gospel Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:16:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Susan Unthank http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10375 Susan Unthank Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:09:17 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10375 Mark, Thank you. As I previously stated, I agree that references should indeed be checked before doing any business. Mark,

Thank you. As I previously stated, I agree that references should indeed be checked before doing any business.

]]> By: Mark Forester http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10371 Mark Forester Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:03 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10371 Chris and Susan, First Chris: Thanks for your even handed reply. I find it interesting you pay for rates on SGN. If that is the case then that shows a fairness and unbias that most people don't get a look at. I commend you for it. BTW, I happen to be one who likes your site and thinks you guys do a good job. My whole comments came from a position of I would like to hear an artist that pays for the services say how great they are. I do regret that I made the comment here because that allowed some peopl to start slinging mud and dive into comments about som of your acts being whiny, ect....stupid and uncalled for. Thanks for the comments Chris. Susan: As I said, I was lookig for someone besides the company to brag on it. Wrong venue I guess. Maybe those people don;t even read these blogs. I know you probably get gun shy because almost since day one there have been a lot of "haters" towards you.....but I was NOT slinging mud at you or your kids. I work my butt off in the SG field and know you guys do to. That said.....the main point of my comments still stands.....an artist should always check with others to see if a service is worthwhile. A lot of money gets spent in this industry because "everybody is doing it." That is why most groups don't have 3 minutes worth of reserve cash in their accounts , let alone 3 months like any good business should have. Keeep up the good work.(must be if everyone keeps renewing!) Chris and Susan,

First Chris:

Thanks for your even handed reply. I find it interesting you pay for rates on SGN. If that is the case then that shows a fairness and unbias that most people don’t get a look at. I commend you for it. BTW, I happen to be one who likes your site and thinks you guys do a good job. My whole comments came from a position of I would like to hear an artist that pays for the services say how great they are.

I do regret that I made the comment here because that allowed some peopl to start slinging mud and dive into comments about som of your acts being whiny, ect….stupid and uncalled for. Thanks for the comments Chris.

Susan: As I said, I was lookig for someone besides the company to brag on it. Wrong venue I guess. Maybe those people don;t even read these blogs. I know you probably get gun shy because almost since day one there have been a lot of “haters” towards you…..but I was NOT slinging mud at you or your kids. I work my butt off in the SG field and know you guys do to.

That said…..the main point of my comments still stands…..an artist should always check with others to see if a service is worthwhile. A lot of money gets spent in this industry because “everybody is doing it.” That is why most groups don’t have 3 minutes worth of reserve cash in their accounts , let alone 3 months like any good business should have.

Keeep up the good work.(must be if everyone keeps renewing!)

]]> By: Chris Unthank http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10366 Chris Unthank Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:02:47 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10366 GospelMusicFan, Why did you link to SoGospelNews.com? SSE does NOT run SoGospelNews.com. I even said that in the long post of mine above (#11). There is even a disclaimer on SSE's Service's page (which you linked to) that says we have no special dealings with SGN. I'm confused as to why you linked to that site? As for everyone's comments about HisSong - this post isn't really about HisSong - so I'm not sure why certain people have got on just to trash that group. I just brought them up as an example of a group that we helped to break. I didn't say we did it all ourselves (just like I can't claim to the recent success of DBQ solely). I have not stated our prices on this forum and they are not available publicly - so I don't know where people get off assuming that we are "leaching" groups of their money. I'm pretty sure that if you knew our actual prices you might think twice about that assumption. Again - I would appreciate it if people had questions about our company and our services if they would ask me instead of making assumptions. (I've already posted about the assumptions part and it seems people just ignored it.) Thanks guys. GospelMusicFan,

Why did you link to SoGospelNews.com? SSE does NOT run SoGospelNews.com. I even said that in the long post of mine above (#11). There is even a disclaimer on SSE’s Service’s page (which you linked to) that says we have no special dealings with SGN. I’m confused as to why you linked to that site?

As for everyone’s comments about HisSong – this post isn’t really about HisSong – so I’m not sure why certain people have got on just to trash that group. I just brought them up as an example of a group that we helped to break. I didn’t say we did it all ourselves (just like I can’t claim to the recent success of DBQ solely).

I have not stated our prices on this forum and they are not available publicly – so I don’t know where people get off assuming that we are “leaching” groups of their money. I’m pretty sure that if you knew our actual prices you might think twice about that assumption.

Again – I would appreciate it if people had questions about our company and our services if they would ask me instead of making assumptions. (I’ve already posted about the assumptions part and it seems people just ignored it.)

Thanks guys.

]]> By: GospelMusicFan http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10361 GospelMusicFan Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:52:46 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10361 It has a lot to do about being anonymous. Maybe the bloggers, the editor or the host or whatever you call them, in this genre should adopt the policy local newspapers do about letters to the editors being printed on the editorial pages. Name, address, email address and screen name be authenticated prior to posting with the screen identity be available for public view. It makes all the difference in the world how you post. It has a lot to do about being anonymous.
Maybe the bloggers, the editor or the host or whatever you call them, in this genre should adopt the policy local newspapers do about letters to the editors being printed on the editorial pages.
Name, address, email address and screen name be authenticated prior to posting with the screen identity be available for public view.
It makes all the difference in the world how you post.

]]> By: insider http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10357 insider Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:10:42 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10357 HisSong? Who are they? Just a spin-off of Heirline. Seems to be a lot of stigmata behind both those groups anyhow. I don't see how anything you did could merit their success. Perhaps their connection with Wayne and Vine records have much to do with that. Not you guys. People are not ignorant. HisSong did not have any success till they signed with Vine. And have you heard these guys live? Reminds me of some sissys whining for Jesus, all the while being too loud. And their latest cd? Can we say stacked out the wazoo, so much so that you can notice that they aren't even matching up to their vocals. Hmm. Sounds like someone in production is just getting their paycheck and letting things pass under the gun. But on a personal note. I could care less about HisSong, or the many other groups out there that have no business singing. They are mere church singers at best. But our fan base has been so oversaturated with this mess, that they don't know good singing from apple butter. (Which Cracker Barrell has some of the best apple butter....yum!!) I'm not slinging mud, just trying to bring to light the truth about the companies and groups that really just leach of a market that they could never be a part of. If half of these groups walked up to the contemporary or country market, the record labels and industry executives would laugh at them for their lack of talent, and send them home. You know it, and I know it! You can prance around it all you want. Say what ever you will, but its the truth. Our market will entertain them awhile, and allow them to play with the big boys, such as press releases, or some chart success, but only because the market needs their money. Its sad, really, to watch these groups finance all they have, borrow from their family and friends, just to pay their way in. Seems they never really make it though. You think there is a reason as to why the NQC board, or most the market and industry leaders are part of, or associated with MAJOR, TALENTED groups? Its called security and survival. They are in the most control, and I seriously doubt they are gonna let a group like HisSong get any headway. Those major groups will remain on top, and that is the way they plan to keep it. But they don't mind your money! It helps to keep their major group on the road, and on the top! By the way, it doesn't matter who I am, just as it doesn't really matter who you are. But just to level with you, my name is Marcus. And this really has nothing to do with being anonymous, or getting to know someone personally. Its only discussion about the subject posted, and will not really matter in 100 years. Perhaps focusing on salvation, instead of group success would merit a great discussion. Course I'm sure a business like yours would find a way to leach off of that as well....JK. HisSong? Who are they? Just a spin-off of Heirline. Seems to be a lot of stigmata behind both those groups anyhow. I don’t see how anything you did could merit their success. Perhaps their connection with Wayne and Vine records have much to do with that. Not you guys. People are not ignorant. HisSong did not have any success till they signed with Vine. And have you heard these guys live? Reminds me of some sissys whining for Jesus, all the while being too loud. And their latest cd? Can we say stacked out the wazoo, so much so that you can notice that they aren’t even matching up to their vocals. Hmm. Sounds like someone in production is just getting their paycheck and letting things pass under the gun. But on a personal note. I could care less about HisSong, or the many other groups out there that have no business singing. They are mere church singers at best. But our fan base has been so oversaturated with this mess, that they don’t know good singing from apple butter. (Which Cracker Barrell has some of the best apple butter….yum!!) I’m not slinging mud, just trying to bring to light the truth about the companies and groups that really just leach of a market that they could never be a part of. If half of these groups walked up to the contemporary or country market, the record labels and industry executives would laugh at them for their lack of talent, and send them home. You know it, and I know it! You can prance around it all you want. Say what ever you will, but its the truth. Our market will entertain them awhile, and allow them to play with the big boys, such as press releases, or some chart success, but only because the market needs their money. Its sad, really, to watch these groups finance all they have, borrow from their family and friends, just to pay their way in. Seems they never really make it though. You think there is a reason as to why the NQC board, or most the market and industry leaders are part of, or associated with MAJOR, TALENTED groups? Its called security and survival. They are in the most control, and I seriously doubt they are gonna let a group like HisSong get any headway. Those major groups will remain on top, and that is the way they plan to keep it. But they don’t mind your money! It helps to keep their major group on the road, and on the top!

By the way, it doesn’t matter who I am, just as it doesn’t really matter who you are. But just to level with you, my name is Marcus.

And this really has nothing to do with being anonymous, or getting to know someone personally. Its only discussion about the subject posted, and will not really matter in 100 years. Perhaps focusing on salvation, instead of group success would merit a great discussion. Course I’m sure a business like yours would find a way to leach off of that as well….JK.

]]> By: GospelMusicFan http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10355 GospelMusicFan Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:24:15 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10355 To help you outm here is what SSE does: The services that helps builts the base beyond the "1000" true fans: http://www.southernspin.com/index.php/site/services Look beyound the headline to see what they do: http://sogospelnews.com/index/categories/ Something else they do: http://sogospelnews.com/ Finally, on the bottom on one of their web pages you will find this description what they do: "For more information on Southern Spin Entertainment, go to http://www.southernspin.com . SSE Group’s four divisions include Southern Spin Entertainment, SSE Design Group, Southern Spin Artist Direction, and Southern Spin Radio. SSE Group currently owns and operates Glorious Creations, SGBlogNews.com, GospelMusings.com, and WorldofCM.com. For more information on SSE Group, go to http://www.ssegrouponline.com" To help you outm here is what SSE does:

The services that helps builts the base beyond the “1000″ true fans:
http://www.southernspin.com/index.php/site/services

Look beyound the headline to see what they do:
http://sogospelnews.com/index/categories/

Something else they do:
http://sogospelnews.com/

Finally, on the bottom on one of their web pages you will find this description what they do:

“For more information on Southern Spin Entertainment, go to http://www.southernspin.com .
SSE Group’s four divisions include Southern Spin Entertainment, SSE Design Group, Southern Spin Artist Direction, and Southern Spin Radio. SSE Group currently owns and operates Glorious Creations, SGBlogNews.com, GospelMusings.com, and WorldofCM.com.
For more information on SSE Group, go to http://www.ssegrouponline.com“

]]> By: Susan Unthank http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10352 Susan Unthank Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:21:00 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10352 Why not ask HisSong if they are happy with the services and find them worthwhile? At least I have the nerve to sign my name to my posts :) Like, I said, mud slinging is easy when you are anonymous and when you don't take the time or the effort to get to know anyone personally. Why not ask HisSong if they are happy with the services and find them worthwhile?

At least I have the nerve to sign my name to my posts :)

Like, I said, mud slinging is easy when you are anonymous and when you don’t take the time or the effort to get to know anyone personally.

]]> By: insider http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10350 insider Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:59:50 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10350 <p>[EDITED. No ad hominems please.] Quality always prevails. Not some news release, or signing with some media company. If you can REALLY sing, and have a God given talent, then your in. Nothing else will get you there. [DITTO.] Truly a joke.</p> [EDITED. No ad hominems please.] Quality always prevails. Not some news release, or signing with some media company. If you can REALLY sing, and have a God given talent, then your in. Nothing else will get you there. [DITTO.] Truly a joke.

]]> By: Chris Unthank http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10349 Chris Unthank Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:11:42 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10349 Sorry - that should be "over 4 years" not "almost 4 years." Sorry – that should be “over 4 years” not “almost 4 years.”

]]> By: Chris Unthank http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758/comment-page-1#comment-10348 Chris Unthank Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:11:20 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/758#comment-10348 HisSong has been with SSE for almost over 4 years. HisSong has been with SSE for almost over 4 years.

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