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		<title>By: John Crenshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/656/comment-page-1#comment-8697</link>
		<dc:creator>John Crenshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just discovered on the Chuck Wagon Gang message board that CWG manager Dave Emery has responded to some of the criticism he&#039;s faced on this and other blogs about his decision to edit his original letter.    

He goes on to say that the original letter has been restored on their blog.

Rather than trying to paraphrase Dave&#039;s well written explaination, I would suggest that you check it our for yourselves:

http://chuckwagongang.proboards58.com/index.cgi?board=general&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1199384582</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just discovered on the Chuck Wagon Gang message board that CWG manager Dave Emery has responded to some of the criticism he&#8217;s faced on this and other blogs about his decision to edit his original letter.    </p>
<p>He goes on to say that the original letter has been restored on their blog.</p>
<p>Rather than trying to paraphrase Dave&#8217;s well written explaination, I would suggest that you check it our for yourselves:</p>
<p><a href="http://chuckwagongang.proboards58.com/index.cgi?board=general&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1199384582" rel="nofollow">http://chuckwagongang.proboards58.com/index.cgi?board=general&amp;action=display&amp;thread=1199384582</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Bruce Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/656/comment-page-1#comment-8685</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bruce Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaid,
To clarify...I wasn&#039;t responding directly to your comments or any others that were made here. I was just putting forth some points about the CWG that I had raised on another forum. 

(The entire thread vanished there...not just my post.) 

When I saw that several people were reading about the situation here and responding with comments, I thought this would be a good place to re-express the points I had made on the other forum. 

(I hate spending all that time writing a post only to see it go away without even a puff of smoke to show for it.)

I apologize for not making it clearer the first time. I wasn&#039;t taking exception to what you had said specifically.

Now, I will respond to something you wrote:
&quot;Let’s be honest, what groups are more widley recognized today? The Crabb Family or the LeFevres? Statesmen or GVB?

If we’re not dilligent, our past will be ignored and eventually forgotten in the near future.&quot;

I agree completely. I don&#039;t want the past history of SG to be forgotten.

What you&#039;re describing is always going to be the case. The new is going to overshadow the past at all times.

To me, the real question is whether or not the current groups are making music that will be remembered 50 years from now. Most, I&#039;m afraid, are not. Once in a while, there&#039;s a song like &quot;Midnight Cry&quot; or &quot;Mary Did You Know&quot; that are marked for permanence, but those are few and far between. 

I&#039;ve looked over the list of number one songs from the Singing News monthly charts...with an alarming number of them from the past 15 years or so, I can&#039;t even remember the tune, much less the lyrics. If I go back further, I can remember the vast majority of those. The odd thing is that I&#039;ve been actively covering SG for the past 10 years. My only conclusion can be that the songs that make it to the top of the charts now aren&#039;t as memorable as a whole compared to the songs that went to the top of the charts and tended to stay for several months at a time in past decades.

That...anecdotally...says to me that the songs we remember from the past will continue to be remembered while most of the current stuff, though more popular now, won&#039;t be as likely to endure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaid,<br />
To clarify&#8230;I wasn&#8217;t responding directly to your comments or any others that were made here. I was just putting forth some points about the CWG that I had raised on another forum. </p>
<p>(The entire thread vanished there&#8230;not just my post.) </p>
<p>When I saw that several people were reading about the situation here and responding with comments, I thought this would be a good place to re-express the points I had made on the other forum. </p>
<p>(I hate spending all that time writing a post only to see it go away without even a puff of smoke to show for it.)</p>
<p>I apologize for not making it clearer the first time. I wasn&#8217;t taking exception to what you had said specifically.</p>
<p>Now, I will respond to something you wrote:<br />
&#8220;Let’s be honest, what groups are more widley recognized today? The Crabb Family or the LeFevres? Statesmen or GVB?</p>
<p>If we’re not dilligent, our past will be ignored and eventually forgotten in the near future.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree completely. I don&#8217;t want the past history of SG to be forgotten.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re describing is always going to be the case. The new is going to overshadow the past at all times.</p>
<p>To me, the real question is whether or not the current groups are making music that will be remembered 50 years from now. Most, I&#8217;m afraid, are not. Once in a while, there&#8217;s a song like &#8220;Midnight Cry&#8221; or &#8220;Mary Did You Know&#8221; that are marked for permanence, but those are few and far between. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked over the list of number one songs from the Singing News monthly charts&#8230;with an alarming number of them from the past 15 years or so, I can&#8217;t even remember the tune, much less the lyrics. If I go back further, I can remember the vast majority of those. The odd thing is that I&#8217;ve been actively covering SG for the past 10 years. My only conclusion can be that the songs that make it to the top of the charts now aren&#8217;t as memorable as a whole compared to the songs that went to the top of the charts and tended to stay for several months at a time in past decades.</p>
<p>That&#8230;anecdotally&#8230;says to me that the songs we remember from the past will continue to be remembered while most of the current stuff, though more popular now, won&#8217;t be as likely to endure.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaid</title>
		<link>http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/656/comment-page-1#comment-8682</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just went to the CWG&#039;s website. It&#039;s certainly curious about the content missing there.
I admit that my above comment was somewhat an elaboration. I did not mean that there was any form of &quot;conspiracy&quot;.  Neither did I mean the post to be a complaint soley against the NQC. (should have clarified these things in my last post). 
Instead, this is a genere-wide issue. SG music is changing at an alarming rate. Like it or not, this is due largly in part to how the culture is changing.
Let&#039;s be honest, what groups are more widley recognized today? The Crabb Family or the LeFevres? Statesmen or GVB?
If we&#039;re not dilligent, our past will be ignored and eventually forgotten in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just went to the CWG&#8217;s website. It&#8217;s certainly curious about the content missing there.<br />
I admit that my above comment was somewhat an elaboration. I did not mean that there was any form of &#8220;conspiracy&#8221;.  Neither did I mean the post to be a complaint soley against the NQC. (should have clarified these things in my last post).<br />
Instead, this is a genere-wide issue. SG music is changing at an alarming rate. Like it or not, this is due largly in part to how the culture is changing.<br />
Let&#8217;s be honest, what groups are more widley recognized today? The Crabb Family or the LeFevres? Statesmen or GVB?<br />
If we&#8217;re not dilligent, our past will be ignored and eventually forgotten in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bruce Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/656/comment-page-1#comment-8662</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bruce Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted what I&#039;m about to write on the Singing News message board and then the whole thread vanished like magic...don&#039;t know if it was due to me or someone else. 

This is the condensed version.

1. Fans stood and exited the arena when the CWG took the stage in 2006...not in protest, but just expressing their tastes. The NQC board is aware of crowd response, and I believe that in this case they simply voted accordingly.

2. There is no conspiracy to push old music out. NQC stages traditional groups every year. In 2006, they added a VERY traditional group that had never been on the main stage before. That group was back in 2007.

3. The CWG was offered a spot at NQC...just not on the main stage. This was in the initial &quot;open letter&quot; that was posted here and in other locations on the internet and discussion groups. A Saturday afternoon showcase is a very respectable spot. This isn&#039;t the regional showcase and showcases aren&#039;t limited to up-and-coming groups, as they implied with their comments. Some are, and some aren&#039;t. Last year on Saturday afternoon, one showcase featured the Hoppers 50th anniversary and another Saturday showcase was Pianorama, for example. There are similar &quot;top tier&quot; showcases during the week.

4. The Chuck Wagon Gang that appeared at NQC in 2007 wasn&#039;t the same group that appeared in other recent years. They&#039;ve had significant turnovers, including the departure of the two individuals who had ties to the older group.

5. I completely understand if the CWG can&#039;t afford to attend without the money they would have received for a main stage slot. What I don&#039;t understand is some of the fans who have took the NQC to task for making it &quot;all about money.&quot; That works both ways, because A) other groups appearing are just as capable of singing the gospel and B) if NQC is &quot;bad&quot; for keeping a close eye on their bottom line, then so is the CWG. I don&#039;t believe either entity is wrong for doing that. It&#039;s just the way it is.

6. Finally, while I admire the group for putting out the word as to why they wouldn&#039;t be at NQC, I was a bit unimpressed when I went to their website where an edited version of this &quot;open letter&quot; appears with no mention of the showcase slot that NQC had offered them. I suppose they decided after the fact that they could get more fans to write and complain if they left that part out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted what I&#8217;m about to write on the Singing News message board and then the whole thread vanished like magic&#8230;don&#8217;t know if it was due to me or someone else. </p>
<p>This is the condensed version.</p>
<p>1. Fans stood and exited the arena when the CWG took the stage in 2006&#8230;not in protest, but just expressing their tastes. The NQC board is aware of crowd response, and I believe that in this case they simply voted accordingly.</p>
<p>2. There is no conspiracy to push old music out. NQC stages traditional groups every year. In 2006, they added a VERY traditional group that had never been on the main stage before. That group was back in 2007.</p>
<p>3. The CWG was offered a spot at NQC&#8230;just not on the main stage. This was in the initial &#8220;open letter&#8221; that was posted here and in other locations on the internet and discussion groups. A Saturday afternoon showcase is a very respectable spot. This isn&#8217;t the regional showcase and showcases aren&#8217;t limited to up-and-coming groups, as they implied with their comments. Some are, and some aren&#8217;t. Last year on Saturday afternoon, one showcase featured the Hoppers 50th anniversary and another Saturday showcase was Pianorama, for example. There are similar &#8220;top tier&#8221; showcases during the week.</p>
<p>4. The Chuck Wagon Gang that appeared at NQC in 2007 wasn&#8217;t the same group that appeared in other recent years. They&#8217;ve had significant turnovers, including the departure of the two individuals who had ties to the older group.</p>
<p>5. I completely understand if the CWG can&#8217;t afford to attend without the money they would have received for a main stage slot. What I don&#8217;t understand is some of the fans who have took the NQC to task for making it &#8220;all about money.&#8221; That works both ways, because A) other groups appearing are just as capable of singing the gospel and B) if NQC is &#8220;bad&#8221; for keeping a close eye on their bottom line, then so is the CWG. I don&#8217;t believe either entity is wrong for doing that. It&#8217;s just the way it is.</p>
<p>6. Finally, while I admire the group for putting out the word as to why they wouldn&#8217;t be at NQC, I was a bit unimpressed when I went to their website where an edited version of this &#8220;open letter&#8221; appears with no mention of the showcase slot that NQC had offered them. I suppose they decided after the fact that they could get more fans to write and complain if they left that part out.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/656/comment-page-1#comment-8660</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree...to a point...after thinking about even more, let&#039;s look at it this way...if a group came out and sang they way they did in the 30&#039;s and 40&#039;s how would we feel about it...it sometimes is necessary for a group to change their style somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;to a point&#8230;after thinking about even more, let&#8217;s look at it this way&#8230;if a group came out and sang they way they did in the 30&#8217;s and 40&#8217;s how would we feel about it&#8230;it sometimes is necessary for a group to change their style somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sickning to see the founders and pioneers of SG slowly but surely being pushed out, in favor of modern music. Sadly, this issue with the Chuck Wagon Gang is just one of many such occurances.  The, shall we say, &quot;tip of the iceberg&quot;.
I mean, look back just 5-7 years ago, before the progressive trends prevallient today began to rise in popularity. How many  southern gospel groups (by the traditional definition) were singing? How many have changed their style to more modern music since then? 
Another thing, how many of our standard bearing, quallity, legendary singers have passed away since then?
To both questions the names are far too numerous to list.
What groups fill the radio and dominate the charts? When was the last time you heard the Chuck Wagon Gang, Dixie Melody Boys, Melody Boys Quartet, any of the Blackwood groups, Stamps, ect. on the radio? 
Such leads me to wonder: is traditional southern gospel music threatened with extinction ? Or death because people simply forget it&#039;s value ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sickning to see the founders and pioneers of SG slowly but surely being pushed out, in favor of modern music. Sadly, this issue with the Chuck Wagon Gang is just one of many such occurances.  The, shall we say, &#8220;tip of the iceberg&#8221;.<br />
I mean, look back just 5-7 years ago, before the progressive trends prevallient today began to rise in popularity. How many  southern gospel groups (by the traditional definition) were singing? How many have changed their style to more modern music since then?<br />
Another thing, how many of our standard bearing, quallity, legendary singers have passed away since then?<br />
To both questions the names are far too numerous to list.<br />
What groups fill the radio and dominate the charts? When was the last time you heard the Chuck Wagon Gang, Dixie Melody Boys, Melody Boys Quartet, any of the Blackwood groups, Stamps, ect. on the radio?<br />
Such leads me to wonder: is traditional southern gospel music threatened with extinction ? Or death because people simply forget it&#8217;s value ?</p>
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		<title>By: David Bruce Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bruce Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;legends hour&quot; to kick off each night at NQC would be another option. I think people like it when there are certain themes to each evening...don&#039;t know that putting them all on the same night would work, though, as it might not attract as many people and extending the time on just one night would make that particular night last too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;legends hour&#8221; to kick off each night at NQC would be another option. I think people like it when there are certain themes to each evening&#8230;don&#8217;t know that putting them all on the same night would work, though, as it might not attract as many people and extending the time on just one night would make that particular night last too long.</p>
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		<title>By: John Crenshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Crenshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hasn’t the group taken several multi-year sabbaticals along the way?&quot;

Yes, Daniel, there were several times that the Melody Boys Quartet took a sabbatical, just as have many other groups including the Statesmen, Harvesters, Happy Goodmans, Chuck Wagon Gang, Prophets, Sons of Song, Stamps, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hasn’t the group taken several multi-year sabbaticals along the way?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Daniel, there were several times that the Melody Boys Quartet took a sabbatical, just as have many other groups including the Statesmen, Harvesters, Happy Goodmans, Chuck Wagon Gang, Prophets, Sons of Song, Stamps, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Cottrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Cottrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be one for a classic group segment.  Earlier, I was just trying to understand why the NQC would want to exclude these groups.  Aren&#039;t many of the board members long time singers as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be one for a classic group segment.  Earlier, I was just trying to understand why the NQC would want to exclude these groups.  Aren&#8217;t many of the board members long time singers as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Mount</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Mount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t the group taken several multi-year sabbaticals along the way?

That said, either way they have a long and distinguished heritage and should be there. If there simply aren&#039;t mainstage slots available, maybe the Board of Directors could start at 4 PM on Saturday (instead of 6) and put all the classic groups up for sets. Especially if they threw in some reunion lineups (like classic Florida Boys), I think it would be one of the convention&#039;s biggest draws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t the group taken several multi-year sabbaticals along the way?</p>
<p>That said, either way they have a long and distinguished heritage and should be there. If there simply aren&#8217;t mainstage slots available, maybe the Board of Directors could start at 4 PM on Saturday (instead of 6) and put all the classic groups up for sets. Especially if they threw in some reunion lineups (like classic Florida Boys), I think it would be one of the convention&#8217;s biggest draws.</p>
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