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		<title>By: Daniel Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name of the game is money!  Yes, most groups who are considered amature just do not have money for marketing much less a top quality project.  Professional groups usually have a studio they can work in and they will work on a project for months fine tuning it osting them little.  Amature groups get to rent studios and push a project in 3 to 5 days and costs them everything. Then they nearly bankrupt themselves trying to sell their product and still they sing dates weekly.   Those amatures who have a good CD usually run out of money to market it to the mass market.  

I operate Heir Wave internet radio to give semi-professional and independents a place to be heard on the internet.  I understand that this is not for all and I would not expect everyone to listen.  Some people just prefer professional groups and that is their right.  My actual goal is to give these artists a place to market their music.  My hope is that perhaps someone will hear their songs and be blessed.  The big time radio industry doesnt understand the ministry side of these artists nor do they care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name of the game is money!  Yes, most groups who are considered amature just do not have money for marketing much less a top quality project.  Professional groups usually have a studio they can work in and they will work on a project for months fine tuning it osting them little.  Amature groups get to rent studios and push a project in 3 to 5 days and costs them everything. Then they nearly bankrupt themselves trying to sell their product and still they sing dates weekly.   Those amatures who have a good CD usually run out of money to market it to the mass market.  </p>
<p>I operate Heir Wave internet radio to give semi-professional and independents a place to be heard on the internet.  I understand that this is not for all and I would not expect everyone to listen.  Some people just prefer professional groups and that is their right.  My actual goal is to give these artists a place to market their music.  My hope is that perhaps someone will hear their songs and be blessed.  The big time radio industry doesnt understand the ministry side of these artists nor do they care.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bruce Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bruce Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of our local stations used to program locals exclusively on Saturday mornings. It was a popular show. They had a list of sponsors a mile long for that two hour segment.

Problem was...when they were programming regular &quot;good&quot; music, they&#039;d stop and run down that long list of sponsors for the local show after every two songs or so. 

The ad was nearly five minutes long!!!

Fortunately, they finally cut that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our local stations used to program locals exclusively on Saturday mornings. It was a popular show. They had a list of sponsors a mile long for that two hour segment.</p>
<p>Problem was&#8230;when they were programming regular &#8220;good&#8221; music, they&#8217;d stop and run down that long list of sponsors for the local show after every two songs or so. </p>
<p>The ad was nearly five minutes long!!!</p>
<p>Fortunately, they finally cut that out.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN JANNA......</description>
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		<title>By: brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7, your statement &quot;if they are in the southern gospel industry, they deserve air time,&quot; seems flawed to me.  How did you arrive at this conclusion?  

I&#039;ve heard plenty of groups with more dollars than sense or talent who had no business on a stage--let alone radio.  Could they be effective on stage?  Sure. I&#039;m sure every single group has people who love their music.  And this is taking nothing away from the group&#039;s sincerity. But just because they purchased their way onto a label or could afford a project or were cousins of the producer does not make them WORTHY of anything. It means they have money or knew the right person. Period. It had no correlation to their worthiness to be on radio.  

No hard feelings intended, but this is the type of fallacy that has gotten southern gospel radio in this mess to begin with. Too many subpar groups sending songs to radio and radio buying into the notion that they need to play every song on every comp disc sent to them.  (And this is probably all being done by a DJ whose discernment of which groups to play or not to play depends on who gave him a free CD or t-shirt at the product table.) And while I do admit that sincerity goes along way with me being able to listen to a group and respect them for who they are, you simply cannot judge sincerity by a song on the radio. You can&#039;t listen to Gold City or the Inspirations or Gaither Vocal Band or McKameys or Booth Brothers or whomever they are and detect whether or not they are sincere or genuine.

And that&#039;s one of the many reasons radio is so off track today, in my opinion.  There aren&#039;t enough hours in the day to discuss the subject of southern gospel radio, though! LOL!  

By the way, my first introduction to a lot of groups comes via The Gospel Greats and the musical discernment of one of southern gospel radio&#039;s best friends, Paul Heil. I&#039;ve also been introduced to groups by attending their concerts in the area.  

It just never occurred to me to listen to amateur hour for finding the next big thing in gospel music, because if they&#039;re playing all local talent, I&#039;ve probably heard them around my area and most likely know the groups and their ministries already. So for me, amateur hour is like a time designated so grandma or cousin Eddie can call in and request their relative singing and then get a big kick out of calling all the neighbors to tune in to hear the &quot;celebrity&quot; in their family over the local airwaves.

And (shock) I sing in a group. I just don&#039;t buy into the misguided notions or get into the ego thing like a lot of others do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7, your statement &#8220;if they are in the southern gospel industry, they deserve air time,&#8221; seems flawed to me.  How did you arrive at this conclusion?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard plenty of groups with more dollars than sense or talent who had no business on a stage&#8211;let alone radio.  Could they be effective on stage?  Sure. I&#8217;m sure every single group has people who love their music.  And this is taking nothing away from the group&#8217;s sincerity. But just because they purchased their way onto a label or could afford a project or were cousins of the producer does not make them WORTHY of anything. It means they have money or knew the right person. Period. It had no correlation to their worthiness to be on radio.  </p>
<p>No hard feelings intended, but this is the type of fallacy that has gotten southern gospel radio in this mess to begin with. Too many subpar groups sending songs to radio and radio buying into the notion that they need to play every song on every comp disc sent to them.  (And this is probably all being done by a DJ whose discernment of which groups to play or not to play depends on who gave him a free CD or t-shirt at the product table.) And while I do admit that sincerity goes along way with me being able to listen to a group and respect them for who they are, you simply cannot judge sincerity by a song on the radio. You can&#8217;t listen to Gold City or the Inspirations or Gaither Vocal Band or McKameys or Booth Brothers or whomever they are and detect whether or not they are sincere or genuine.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s one of the many reasons radio is so off track today, in my opinion.  There aren&#8217;t enough hours in the day to discuss the subject of southern gospel radio, though! LOL!  </p>
<p>By the way, my first introduction to a lot of groups comes via The Gospel Greats and the musical discernment of one of southern gospel radio&#8217;s best friends, Paul Heil. I&#8217;ve also been introduced to groups by attending their concerts in the area.  </p>
<p>It just never occurred to me to listen to amateur hour for finding the next big thing in gospel music, because if they&#8217;re playing all local talent, I&#8217;ve probably heard them around my area and most likely know the groups and their ministries already. So for me, amateur hour is like a time designated so grandma or cousin Eddie can call in and request their relative singing and then get a big kick out of calling all the neighbors to tune in to hear the &#8220;celebrity&#8221; in their family over the local airwaves.</p>
<p>And (shock) I sing in a group. I just don&#8217;t buy into the misguided notions or get into the ego thing like a lot of others do.</p>
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		<title>By: LeviSJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeviSJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the stations out here used to play local amateur groups on one night a week (8 to 10pm), but there seemed to be some complaint among the many groups out here that their songs were not being played as often as the better local groups&#039;.  As a result (as well as other format changes), the station removed that block of special programming.  

Another station tends to mix the amateur with the professional (and has recently added a third genre: patriotic).  I find myself changing stations frequently depending on what&#039;s playing.

A third station (a country station which plays gospel on Sunday mornings before church) mixes professional with a small mix of the good, local amateur groups.  I believe any group can submit their CDs for air, but I think the station is a little more stringent on the quality they will allow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the stations out here used to play local amateur groups on one night a week (8 to 10pm), but there seemed to be some complaint among the many groups out here that their songs were not being played as often as the better local groups&#8217;.  As a result (as well as other format changes), the station removed that block of special programming.  </p>
<p>Another station tends to mix the amateur with the professional (and has recently added a third genre: patriotic).  I find myself changing stations frequently depending on what&#8217;s playing.</p>
<p>A third station (a country station which plays gospel on Sunday mornings before church) mixes professional with a small mix of the good, local amateur groups.  I believe any group can submit their CDs for air, but I think the station is a little more stringent on the quality they will allow.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these &quot;amateurs&quot; were putting out QUALITY material, I would have no objection, but playing local groups for the sake of playing local groups is preposterous. As brady said, you don&#039;t hear country or pop stations playing &quot;local&quot; or &quot;amateur&quot; music during their peak hours. They want the best-quality music available to attract the most listeners.

The problem lies not in the local/regional/national debate; it lies solely in what we accept as a &quot;quality recording.&quot; Artists at all levels are so worried about pinching pennies that they cut corners at every turn, resulting in a sub par recording. This isn&#039;t just the smaller acts, but BIG NAME artists are doing this.

I read a review for a CD by a &quot;national group,&quot; saying that it was one of the better projects they&#039;d put out in recent history. I listened to some of that CD, and let me tell you, if that&#039;s the best they have done in the last few years....WHY ARE THEY CONSIDERED A &quot;NATIONAL&quot; GROUP?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these &#8220;amateurs&#8221; were putting out QUALITY material, I would have no objection, but playing local groups for the sake of playing local groups is preposterous. As brady said, you don&#8217;t hear country or pop stations playing &#8220;local&#8221; or &#8220;amateur&#8221; music during their peak hours. They want the best-quality music available to attract the most listeners.</p>
<p>The problem lies not in the local/regional/national debate; it lies solely in what we accept as a &#8220;quality recording.&#8221; Artists at all levels are so worried about pinching pennies that they cut corners at every turn, resulting in a sub par recording. This isn&#8217;t just the smaller acts, but BIG NAME artists are doing this.</p>
<p>I read a review for a CD by a &#8220;national group,&#8221; saying that it was one of the better projects they&#8217;d put out in recent history. I listened to some of that CD, and let me tell you, if that&#8217;s the best they have done in the last few years&#8230;.WHY ARE THEY CONSIDERED A &#8220;NATIONAL&#8221; GROUP?!</p>
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		<title>By: GospelMusicFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GospelMusicFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should start looking from the bottom up instead of from the top down, in the the southern gospel industry.
What level of SG, sacred or inspirational music are we discussing regarding amateur hour thing?
The so called &quot;amateurs&quot; are the farm system of gospel music.
As an amateur. I would be going to all the talent competitions I could find and singing anywhere I could to get exposure.
The last place I would go is to a local radio station for an hour set up by some afternoon DJ to subject me to be a laughing stock like you and me. 
The talent hunting competition at the well set up multiple nights southern gospel events offer me a opportunity to network with the people that really counts in the gospel music industry plus I will receive encouragements from the knowable fans in the industry.
Mixing amateurs with the  quality at a radio station is not a good idea. It diminishes the quality of programming.
Finally, we all have a different perception of quality depending on our little corner in this world.

The current state of economic affairs of the country is giving some of the higher level artists some silents nights while giving a boost for many regional groups in the industry.
Some of these lesser known groups are schedules are booked well into the middle of 2009 thanks to the regional talent agencies, showcases and legiminate talent competition in the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should start looking from the bottom up instead of from the top down, in the the southern gospel industry.<br />
What level of SG, sacred or inspirational music are we discussing regarding amateur hour thing?<br />
The so called &#8220;amateurs&#8221; are the farm system of gospel music.<br />
As an amateur. I would be going to all the talent competitions I could find and singing anywhere I could to get exposure.<br />
The last place I would go is to a local radio station for an hour set up by some afternoon DJ to subject me to be a laughing stock like you and me.<br />
The talent hunting competition at the well set up multiple nights southern gospel events offer me a opportunity to network with the people that really counts in the gospel music industry plus I will receive encouragements from the knowable fans in the industry.<br />
Mixing amateurs with the  quality at a radio station is not a good idea. It diminishes the quality of programming.<br />
Finally, we all have a different perception of quality depending on our little corner in this world.</p>
<p>The current state of economic affairs of the country is giving some of the higher level artists some silents nights while giving a boost for many regional groups in the industry.<br />
Some of these lesser known groups are schedules are booked well into the middle of 2009 thanks to the regional talent agencies, showcases and legiminate talent competition in the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Janna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, #8, I do!
Besides, how in the world do you guys think that these big name groups got their start?
They didn&#039;t just walk into a studio and say &#039;record us&#039;...they started somewhere...they were amateurs once too..wishing someone would play their songs...
I see absolutely nothing wrong with an amateur hour. If you aren&#039;t interested in listening...don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, #8, I do!<br />
Besides, how in the world do you guys think that these big name groups got their start?<br />
They didn&#8217;t just walk into a studio and say &#8216;record us&#8217;&#8230;they started somewhere&#8230;they were amateurs once too..wishing someone would play their songs&#8230;<br />
I see absolutely nothing wrong with an amateur hour. If you aren&#8217;t interested in listening&#8230;don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have SG radio here, but I can see that the idea of a &quot;local hour,&quot; if amateurish music was confined to that time period, would relieve some people&#039;s headaches - at least you would know when not to listen.  :)  Or you could schedule at 2-3 am.

I&#039;m not able to listen to AQR much now, but they do play a lot of amateur music, and it never really bothered me - they stayed on key, and I just turned it down when I wasn&#039;t interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have SG radio here, but I can see that the idea of a &#8220;local hour,&#8221; if amateurish music was confined to that time period, would relieve some people&#8217;s headaches &#8211; at least you would know when not to listen.  <img src='http://www.southerngospelblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Or you could schedule at 2-3 am.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not able to listen to AQR much now, but they do play a lot of amateur music, and it never really bothered me &#8211; they stayed on key, and I just turned it down when I wasn&#8217;t interested.</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7... You sing in a local group? lol</description>
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