Comments on: Andrew Ishee and Scalping Indians http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/16 Positive Daily Commentary on Southern Gospel Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:00:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jared http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/16/comment-page-1#comment-48 Jared Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:28:26 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/2006/09/19/andrew-ishee-and-scalping-indians/#comment-48 I'm not usually on the PC bandwagon, but I have to admit this one was a little inappropriate. I happened to actually be there at the showcase when he made that comment, and I cringed a little bit. The most shocking thing that happened in that showcase wasn't that remark though.......I would have to say it was the beat-boxing performed by Crystal River's bass singer in their first song. While I admired his talent to do that, it just felt completely out of place in that setting and I think it would have been far wiser to refrain from doing something like that. I would be very confident in saying that it really hurt the potential of their CD sales to the audience who were watching them, even though the next song they did was a really good one (When The Star Of Heaven Bore The Stripes For Me). I just don't think it was a very smart thing to do in that setting where the average age in the room was probably 50. I’m not usually on the PC bandwagon, but I have to admit this one was a little inappropriate. I happened to actually be there at the showcase when he made that comment, and I cringed a little bit.

The most shocking thing that happened in that showcase wasn’t that remark though…….I would have to say it was the beat-boxing performed by Crystal River’s bass singer in their first song. While I admired his talent to do that, it just felt completely out of place in that setting and I think it would have been far wiser to refrain from doing something like that. I would be very confident in saying that it really hurt the potential of their CD sales to the audience who were watching them, even though the next song they did was a really good one (When The Star Of Heaven Bore The Stripes For Me). I just don’t think it was a very smart thing to do in that setting where the average age in the room was probably 50.

]]> By: Jennifer Stone http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/16/comment-page-1#comment-41 Jennifer Stone Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:32:50 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/2006/09/19/andrew-ishee-and-scalping-indians/#comment-41 I am surprised that we need to discuss this. The joke was in poor taste. Races may make jokes about themselves but that does not give us the right to make those jokes. Garrick Carter is correct that racial prejudice is racial prejudice. I would hope as Christians we would exercise acceptance, love and friendship. If these attributes cannot be exercised by SG artists, then the message of God's love and forgiveness for ALL will never be heard in their performances. I am surprised that we need to discuss this. The joke was in poor taste. Races may make jokes about themselves but that does not give us the right to make those jokes. Garrick Carter is correct that racial prejudice is racial prejudice. I would hope as Christians we would exercise acceptance, love and friendship. If these attributes cannot be exercised by SG artists, then the message of God’s love and forgiveness for ALL will never be heard in their performances.

]]> By: Daniel J. Mount http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/16/comment-page-1#comment-31 Daniel J. Mount Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:28:22 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/2006/09/19/andrew-ishee-and-scalping-indians/#comment-31 As I explained in my post, Ishee's remark was likely in light of McCune's remark earlier in the convention. Let me propose this question: When McCune said "I'm admiring your scalp," would either of you have viewed it as inappropriate? Do you believe that Indians can joke about themselves, using "all the stereotypes associated," but others cannot? And as far as racial prejudice goes, remember that Ishee toured with McCune for several years, and would have gone even longer had McCune not gotten the call from Gold City. As I explained in my post, Ishee’s remark was likely in light of McCune’s remark earlier in the convention. Let me propose this question: When McCune said “I’m admiring your scalp,” would either of you have viewed it as inappropriate? Do you believe that Indians can joke about themselves, using “all the stereotypes associated,” but others cannot?

And as far as racial prejudice goes, remember that Ishee toured with McCune for several years, and would have gone even longer had McCune not gotten the call from Gold City.

]]> By: Garrick Carter http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/16/comment-page-1#comment-29 Garrick Carter Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:17:57 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/2006/09/19/andrew-ishee-and-scalping-indians/#comment-29 How about if the remark had been about African-americans--and if someone had used all the stereotypes associated. Hopefully, Ishee wouldn't have considered it. So why did he do this? Same sort of behavior, is it not? Racial prejudice is racial prejudice. How about if the remark had been about African-americans–and if someone had used all the stereotypes associated. Hopefully, Ishee wouldn’t have considered it. So why did he do this? Same sort of behavior, is it not? Racial prejudice is racial prejudice.

]]> By: T. White http://www.southerngospelblog.com/archives/16/comment-page-1#comment-21 T. White Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:21:27 +0000 http://www.southerngospelblog.com/2006/09/19/andrew-ishee-and-scalping-indians/#comment-21 Even in light of both the context and the humor that was intended, several people in the audience may not have been as understanding. I am a member of the Cherokee Nation, I work for our tribe and take pride in the fact that I am native american. I, for one, would have been very, very offended at the comments made had I been there. #1 - these people are supposed to be professionals and should conduct themselves as such and #2 - it doesn't help the backwoods, red-neck, hick image one bit to have these comments made. Even in light of both the context and the humor that was intended, several people in the audience may not have been as understanding. I am a member of the Cherokee Nation, I work for our tribe and take pride in the fact that I am native american. I, for one, would have been very, very offended at the comments made had I been there. #1 – these people are supposed to be professionals and should conduct themselves as such and #2 – it doesn’t help the backwoods, red-neck, hick image one bit to have these comments made.

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